War Machine

in anyone ones terms the fastest is the best for that period

No, it means fast growing.

Not the same thing.

If it produces lots of bombs and shells, and uses them all, what wealth has it created?
 
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Didn't Enoch Powell say that only 2 countries in Europe could be beaten decisively on the battlefield and still survive.
One was Britain and the other was Russia.
 
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No, it means fast growing.

Not the same thing.

If it produces lots of bombs and shells, and uses them all, what wealth has it created?
Production of weapons creates jobs, wages are earned and spent in the local economy.
 
I am aware that Russia has increased war production.

Do you think they have increased production of butter?

Cars? TVs? Pork pies? Gas? Houses? Lawnmowers?
Even lawnmowers are assets than can be used to benefit the citizens for years to come.
 
If you are a beggar, with an income of 50p a day, and this year your average income increases to 55p a day, you have had a large increase in percentage terms. You are still a beggar.
In the same way as when your European investments show a 40% increase but if you’ve only got a hundred quids worth, you are doing well percentage wise but not that great in monetary terms.
 
Well thats the French and the British put in their place .
For some reason Macron mentioned sending troops to fight the Russians in Ukraine.
Cameron it seems mentions send Ukraine missiles that can strike in Russia.

The problem with both is NATO rules. NATO countries can't fight each other nor supply weapons to any that do.

Same thing cropped up on Palestine. They applied to be a NATO recognised state. US veto as they would have to cease supplying weapons to Israel.:( In this case they decide to stick to the rules suggesting Palestine could always have a bit of a problem getting recognition.

In Ukraine things are similar and relate to what they will supply Ukraine with. So Ukraine comes up with some stuff itself and uses it well within Russia. Biden makes comments about it - concerned about oil prices and supply. Reduce supply and prices go up. Oil is likely to now be Russia's main source of income. However it's a resource rich country so other items may figure. All nice and simple - the NATO rules but other factors have figured in what Ukraine has been supplied with and also probably refusal to supply earlier on before the invasion.
 
808 days into the war and Ukraine says it's thinking of recruiting up to 20,000 convicts to fight back the Russian surge toward the city of Kharkiv. The Institute for the Study of War described recent Russian gains as “tactically significant.” The attacks toward Kharkiv seeks to exploit ammunition shortages before promised Western supplies can reach the front line, and pin down Ukrainian forces in the northeast and keep them away from heavy battles underway in the Donetsk region where Moscow’s troops are gaining ground. Russian military bloggers said the assault could mark the start of a Russian attempt to carve out a “buffer zone” that President Vladimir Putin vowed to create earlier this year to halt frequent Ukrainian attacks on Belgorod and other Russian border regions. Fears also mount that without adequate supplies, Russia might even be able to cut supply routes and besiege the city of Kharkiv, where 1.1 million people live.
 
Fears also mount that without adequate supplies, Russia might even be able to cut supply routes
There heavier attacks all over the place has targetted power. Interest in disrupting rail which will hinder supplies has been mentioned. Linked or separate actions - no info available.

Russian gains. There are secondary factors. A report from one small Russian gain mentioned Ukraine was digging in 30km form where they had been. Too close and more Russian interference while trying to do that.

Other factors
Data on Ukraine's male population, cited by the Financial Times, showed that of 11.1 million Ukrainian men aged between 25 and 60, only an estimated 3.7 million are eligible for mobilisation. The others are fighting, disabled, out of the country or considered critical workers.3 Apr 2024
However equipment and supplies need to be considered. Also maybe a feature of this particular war I have mentioned.
 
An interesting article @Associated Press points out U.S. special operations commanders are juggling how to add more high-tech experts to their teams while still cutting their overall forces by about 5,000 troops over the next five years.The conflicting pressures are forcing a broader restructuring of the commando teams, which are often deployed for high-risk counterterrorism missions and other sensitive operations around the world. The changes under consideration are being influenced by Russia’s invasion of Ukraine, including lessons.

The bulk of the cuts stem from the Army’s decision to reduce the size of its force by about 24,000 and restructure its troops as the U.S. shifts from counterterrorism and counterinsurgency to focus more on large-scale combat operations. The Army also has struggled to meet recruitment goals and had to reduce the overall size of its force. Army Special Operations Command, which Fenton said is absorbing about 4,000 cuts ordered over the past year and a half, is looking at bringing in people with high-tech skills.

He and other Army leaders said a significant percentage of the special forces cuts are in slots that are already open so would not affect existing personnel. Roberson estimated that at least 30% of the cuts are in those open jobs. For other reductions, he said he is looking for redundancies, including among trainers and instructors. Army leaders have also said that psychological operations and civil affairs, both part of the Army command, are facing cuts. More broadly, as his forces absorb the cuts, their training must also be changed or increased to include more technology, robotics or sensors and signals intelligence information, Roberson added. Right now, he said, his troops are experimenting with the various options at the National Training Center in California and out in the field in Iraq and Syria.

Since Russia started feeding convicts into their war machine and Ukrainian authorities are considering similar proposals, perhaps the Americans can solve their overcrowding problems in jails across the country when the time comes? And how will they get enough men across the ocean to fight back Chinese troops - one well placed hypersonic missile has the potential to send a multi-billion dollar carrier to the bottom of the ocean while submarines pick off the troop ships.
 
Imo put any economy on a war footing and it will grow

But again imo it’s not sustainable ????( Russia)
 
An interesting article
It sounds like a move to more drone use to me. We do hear about special forces operations now and again. Afghanistan, Bin Laden and a rescue operation in Africa that went wrong. Also so called secret wars, not the game etc but where they may just be advisors. The US also uses the CIA and so called contractors. The contractors crop up eventually. No info on what they do. Probably specialists in various fields. They might be used when uniforms are a bad idea - pass.
Aircraft carriers etc in my opinion or only of any real use against inferior forces eg Iraq. Bases near operations also figure. Most countries with significant power like those. China wants to be number one so an aircraft carrier is a must. They and other naval items are often used for posturing. Some think this is a bad idea as accidents could really spring things off. Russia appears to have no real interest in aircraft carriers. Much more interest in destroying them.

Talk of wars between major powers? I think people need to think about what the results of that is likely to be which means in practice it's unlikely to happen. The old MAD idea. Economic warfare including embargoes has figured for a long time now and still will. They are different in the way they go about things also figure.

MAD - The Times years ago looked at our set up. They noticed that BT towers could all communicate with each other even if the surrounding area was flattened. They also noticed that the towers were easy to defend from civil unrest. Now - I haven't a clue.
 
It sounds like a move to more drone use to me. We do hear about special forces operations now and again. Afghanistan, Bin Laden and a rescue operation in Africa that went wrong. Also so called secret wars, not the game etc but where they may just be advisors. The US also uses the CIA and so called contractors. The contractors crop up eventually. No info on what they do. Probably specialists in various fields. They might be used when uniforms are a bad idea - pass.


MAD - The Times years ago looked at our set up. They noticed that BT towers could all communicate with each other even if the surrounding area was flattened. They also noticed that the towers were easy to defend from civil unrest. Now - I haven't a clue.

Lord Piggy of Cameron was on about using contractors in Gaza for the distribution of aid. A convenient way of reducing costs and avoiding culpability if things go awry. The use of more powerful drones seems to be an avenue worth exploring. All you need is an aerial platform to aim rockets and missiles at designated targets. Much cheaper than a Eurofighter. End result very similar. What will happen if AI is written into the software?
 
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