New home for the Ohms symbol ?

[bernardgreen]

The Ohms symbol needs a new home where it can be found when needed, or is it hiding away, resisting publicity

 

[blup]

It needs re-ohming

 

[JohnW2]

The Ohms symbol needs a new home where it can be found when needed, or is it hiding away, resisting publicity

It does take two or three clicks to get to it, but I very much doubt that those who run this forum has the ability to re-arrange the way that the software organises its symbols. At least it 'defaults' to opening at the 'Greek' symbols page after one has opened it once - hence second and subsequent uses of the symbol in the same post take one less click.

The 'first use' of Ω is only one more click than is required to get to " ² " (which I'm sure I use a lot more than " Ω " in this forum), and subsequent uses ofΩ would require the same number of clicks as would multiple uses of " ² ".

If (as is commonly the case) I want to include one or other of these symbols multiple times in one post,I usually first type everything without the symbol, then insert the symbol once and then copy/paste (only one click for each paste) it to wherever else it is needed.

Kind Regards, John

 

[Notch7]

Does alt+234 work?

 

[SUNRAY]

Does alt+234 work?

no.
We had a thread fairly recently where someone used several ASCii characters and each time there was a seemingly meaningless string of characters.

 

[Notch7]

no

I think it only works on a windows pc, I don’t even know if an iPad etc has an alt key.

I know special characters work on excel and word

 

[SUNRAY]

It does take two or three clicks to get to it, but I very much doubt that those who run this forum has the ability to re-arrange the way that the software organises its symbols. At least it 'defaults' to opening at the 'Greek' symbols page after one has opened it once - hence second and subsequent uses of the symbol in the same post take one less click.

The 'first use' of Ω is only one more click than is required to get to " ² " (which I'm sure I use a lot more than " Ω " in this forum), and subsequent uses ofΩ would require the same number of clicks as would multiple uses of " ² ".

If (as is commonly the case) I want to include one or other of these symbols multiple times in one post,I usually first type everything without the symbol, then insert the symbol once and then copy/paste (only one click for each paste) it to wherever else it is needed.

Kind Regards, John

It always defaults to the first page for me so Ω or ≥ is 4 clicks whereas ² is 3 clicks.

EDIT: At first use in a message it stays like this

so Ω or ≥ becomes 3π clicks whereas ² is 2 clicks.

For example; after entering π it stays as

but clicking on the

I see

to make my next selection from
and I'd have to select

to get back to

to enter another π or Ω etc.
Although I feel sure it used to hold the previous page stored in a previous update/format as you describe as I used to do multiple ΩΩΩΩ or ²²² as required then fill in the bits in between. Like you I now tend to use it the first time, ie 2.5mm² then copy and paste

to get mm² to fill in being only one click per addition.
Going back to previous version of the forum software, a selected block of special characters became part of the toolbar.

 

[ericmark]

We did have it where easy to use, but that's going back some years, I have to open excel or word with other forums and copy and paste, so really this forum is better than most, however for some reason trying to use the special characters on my tablet seems to result in posting reply, so tend to use ohms instead of Ω.

 

[JohnW2]

Does alt+234 work?

no. .... We had a thread fairly recently where someone used several ASCii characters and each time there was a seemingly meaningless string of characters.

I think it only works on a windows pc, I don’t even know if an iPad etc has an alt key. .... I know special characters work on excel and word

"Alt-codes" are a complete nightmare with Windows, because their behaviour is dependent on a number of aspects of the configuration of the Windows installation ("System Locale", "Character Maps" etc.) - and I haven't a clue as to whether any equivalent facility exists (and/or how it performs/behaves) with any other operation systems (iOs, Android, Unix etc.)

However, the simple answer to Notch's question is Yes, alt+234 does work,(with Windows) within this forum (and everywhere else) but only if one's Windows is configured appropriately. As witness, on this (Windows 10) laptop, alt+234 currently produces ...

Ω Ω Ω Ω

However, if (as is probably the case for most of us in this forum)', one has one's Windows "System Locale" set to "English(UK)", then everything goes wrong, with (at least on my machine) many of the alt-codes producing a character/symbol other than that which one expects. In particular, with that configuration, alt+234 results in Û

To get alt+234 to result in Ω (as above), I had to change my Windows "System Locale" to "English(US)".

There are also various other alt codes which may result in a Ω character/symbol with certain configurations of Windows, including ...

alt+937​

alt+939​

alt+1002​

... not to mention use of the Unicode for Ω (namely 3A9), which can be invoked with some Windows configurations by typing 3A9 and then alt+x.

Whoever invented these systems presumably did not intend them to be straightforward to use

Kind Regards, John

 

[ebee]

well i have given up already¢£¡¤¥¦§©™ hmmm yes i give up

 

[JohnW2]

It always defaults to the first page for me so Ω or ≥ is 4 clicks whereas ² is 3 clicks. ... EDIT: At first use in a message it stays like this View attachment 327505so Ω or ≥ becomes 3π clicks whereas ² is 2 clicks.

I'm not sure whether you are saying the same, or something different from, what I said.

If, as the first step, I click on the 'More options' thingy (three dots), I get:

If I then click on the Ω (very confusing, in present context!), I get: the first page ('Latin')...

... but if I want, say, an Ω,I switch that to the 'Greek' page ...

if I then select a symbol from that (e.g. Ω ), that page disappears, but this still remains:

.but if I click again on that (confusing!)( Ω, I get straight back to thee 'Greek' page, not the initial/'default' Latin one (i.e. the 'default'page has temporarily changed)....:

Is that different from what you are experiencing/describing?

Kind Regards, John

 

[JohnW2]

well i have given up already¢£¡¤¥¦§©™ hmmm yes i give up

Very understandable- as I wrote ....

Whoever invented these systems presumably did not intend them to be straightforward to use

Kind Regards, John

 

[SUNRAY]

We did have it where easy to use, but that's going back some years, I have to open excel or word with other forums and copy and paste, so really this forum is better than most, however for some reason trying to use the special characters on my tablet seems to result in posting reply, so tend to use ohms instead of Ω.

Yes it was easier and is currently better than some others, I tend to come here (because it's usually open) for characters and copy/paste to other forums rather than trying the potential pitfalls.

 

[SUNRAY]

I'm not sure whether you are saying the same, or something different from, what I said.

If, as the first step, I click on the 'More options' thingy (three dots), I get:

View attachment 327531

If I then click on the Ω (very confusing, in present context!), I get: the first page ('Latin')...

View attachment 327532

... but if I want, say, an Ω,I switch that to the 'Greek' page ...

View attachment 327533

if I then select a symbol from that (e.g. Ω ), that page disappears, but this still remains:

View attachment 327534

.but if I click again on that (confusing!)( Ω, I get straight back to thee 'Greek' page, not the initial/'default' Latin one (i.e. the 'default'page has temporarily changed)....:

For me it's the same until your last screenshot
View attachment 327535

Is that different from what you are experiencing/describing?

Kind Regards, John

 

[JohnW2]

For me it's the same until your last screenshot

Strange. I presume that you are talking about 'within the same writing/editing session', and also that you left the

visible prior to the last step?

Kind Regards, John